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Norm Crawford
08/23/06 07:05 AM
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With regard to inspection and limited dimension drawings, rest assured I feel your pain. I do not support limited dimensioning any more then I support limited 2D tolerance analysis. Please re-read the third to last paragraph. Please not there and on my process map, that there are products for the inspection process that take adavantage of the 3D annotation. The UG-AIMS product is very exciting.
As for anyone can pull a fully detailed drawing anytime and read it, well the flaw has always been that a fully detailed drawing is normally not detailed correctly, its cluttered and hard to read by someone versed in GD&T and detail views and all that much less for someone who isn't.
I know my block example only has a few holes, but if you had a chance to look at how "model views" manage the annotation on a complex part, I think you would be pleasantly suprised. Plus, with a 3D part/assy, it is much easier to "see" the design and "manage" it. For example, drawings pulled from a drawer are often out of date. Ever experience that issue? Or, the drawing is up to date but the CAD model isn't. And is much of the manufacturing process driven by the CAD model?
Trust me. We are in agreement. Detailing of features needs to be complete. Please do not misunderstand the efficiency of leaving off BASIC dimensions and multiple copies of datum symbols as a support for limited part/product definition.
However, I do support title block tolerancing for robust designs that do not require excessive detailed and unique GD&T on every feature. To bring my point home, on my "simple" block, a linear overall width dimension is not necessary with a simple profile of surface control. In fact, a "feature of size" linear dimension intended to control the width of the "simple" block would in fact be incorrect and an extremely poor transfer of functional design intent.
Finally, I am a huge advocate for CMM and especially non-contact lazer point cloud inspection tools and process to further take advantage of the not so new relm of 3D annotation and "smart modeling".
I am only to glad to help. My contact information is at the bottom of the article.

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*Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&T  08/08/06 04:21 AM
.*Re: Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&T BrentArmstrong   12/19/07 05:38 AM
.*Re: Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&T NormCrawford   12/21/07 07:01 AM
.*Re: Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&T BrentArmstrong   12/22/07 08:07 AM
.*Re: Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&T NormCrawford   01/03/08 06:54 AM
.*InspectionJohnny On The Spot  02/20/07 04:47 PM
.*Re: Inspection NormCrawford   02/22/07 04:58 AM
.*Re: Inspection brian575   03/16/07 12:42 PM
.*Re: enjoyed the article NormCrawford   03/21/07 08:03 AM
.*InspectionJohnny On The Spot  02/02/07 08:30 AM
.*Drawings provide design intent jetero   02/13/07 10:24 AM
.*Re: Drawings provide design intent NormCrawford   02/15/07 06:12 AM
.*Re: Drawings provide design intent jetero   02/18/07 10:10 AM
.*data on 3D CAD printable with model inma   06/04/07 09:31 AM
.*Re: data on 3D CAD printable with model NormCrawford   06/05/07 05:32 AM
.*Re: Inspection NormCrawford   02/12/07 05:41 AM
.*Annotation is not the way to go with GD&TAmazed  11/15/06 07:20 AM
.*Re: Annotation is not the way to go with GD&TNorm  11/16/06 09:12 AM
.*INSPECTIONJoe  08/19/06 08:30 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm Crawford  08/23/06 07:05 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  08/28/06 07:38 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm  09/01/06 07:55 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoE  09/02/06 08:59 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm  09/06/06 07:59 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJOE  09/07/06 10:31 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm  09/13/06 02:11 PM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  09/14/06 08:13 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  09/14/06 08:04 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm  09/27/06 06:54 AM
.*Re: INSPECTION BrentArmstrong   09/06/07 01:09 PM
.*Re: INSPECTION NormCrawford   09/07/07 01:32 PM
.*Re: INSPECTION BrentArmstrong   09/10/07 06:07 AM
.*Re: INSPECTION jim_merry   11/29/07 09:01 AM
.*Infrastructure to View 3D PMI NormCrawford   12/04/07 09:06 PM
.*Re: INSPECTION jang2946   08/18/07 05:55 AM
.*Re: INSPECTION NormCrawford   08/23/07 06:31 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONdprawel  09/29/06 09:47 PM
.*Re: standardsNorm  10/05/06 04:20 PM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  09/27/06 08:11 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm  10/05/06 04:35 PM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  10/06/06 09:01 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  10/06/06 09:54 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONNorm  10/11/06 06:47 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe..  10/11/06 08:12 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  10/11/06 08:23 AM
.*Re: INSPECTIONJoe  11/12/06 06:33 AM
.*Re: GD&TJeroen  09/05/06 12:58 AM
.*Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&TCPerhala  08/08/06 07:00 AM
.*Re: Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&TNorm Crawford  08/08/06 08:01 AM
.*Re: Increase Solid Model Value with 3D GD&TDKorneffel  08/08/06 06:29 AM
.*Sales are in the other columnDisappointed  08/08/06 04:21 AM
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